• auzy1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 hours

    Whatever drive you use should probably have a massive buffer and anti-skip, like an old school discman

  • anewfox@lemmy.zipEnglish
    2 hours

    of course it only took 10 minutes, they probably just enabled an existing kernel module.

  • jve@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6 hours

    Oh man I need to go on the steam forums and ask for speech to text.

  • IlCaviale@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1 day

    Reddit and fediverse users fellate a guy who owns a yacht company for checking a box in a linux distro, news at 11

    • khannie@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1 day

      You’re being downvoted but there are no good billionaires. They may run good companies but there are no good billionaires.

      • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1 day

        Yeah yachts arent exactly environmentally friendly either.

        Im a big fan of GabeN on a “based takes” basis, but i swear to god if someone directly quotes the piracy thing in like 4 paragraphs or reposts the 480p video interview of it I think im gonna lose my mind

    • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1 day

      Yeah fuck them for being responsive to customers, no one should ever acknowledge it

  • Nora@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1 day

    Are people plugging cd-roms into their steam frames? That seems impracticable.

    • M137@lemmy.todayEnglish
      6 hours

      “impracticable”…?

      How’d that become a word you decided to was a thing?

    • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1 day

      Most VR usage is watching movies in a personal home theatre, the rest is porn and maybe like 5% gaming

      The Xbox One is exactly the direction VR should be going to meet the market, but weirdly they’re doing the opposite

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1 day

        The Xbox One is exactly the direction VR should be going to meet the market,

        wait what?

        please expand on this, I’m baffled by what you mean.

        • UnityDevice@lemmy.zipEnglish
          18 hours

          The xbone was launched as a media platform first, and gaming console second. Everyone hated that decision. I guess op is suggesting that it makes more sense for vr.

  • n1ckn4m3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 days

    All 45 people who have been able to buy one are absolutely thrilled.

    cries in waitlist

  • Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zipEnglish
    2 days

    Why bother disabling cdrom drivers in the first place? It comes with the kernel for decades and costs virtually nothing to load.

    • Schemen110676@lemmy.mlEnglish
      18 hours

      KISS

      Keep it simple and stupid.

      Anf that means dropping feature thay arent in use anymore.

    • BCsven@lemmy.caEnglish
      1 day

      Not everything is included by default, otherwise kernel gets larger for no reason as do possible CVE issues. Its good practise to only include what is needed.

      I had to add CDROM drivers on my Linux machine when I added an external CD after install.

    • Riskable@programming.devEnglish
      2 days

      Have you ever configured the kernel? As in make menuconfig.

      There’s a zillion options in there and best practices dictates that you only enable that which you need. For example, why would you enable support for sound cards that don’t exist in your board? Beyond wasting space, it could enable some vulnerability discovered in the future.

      Example: My PC doesn’t have a MIPI DSI display connector (or support for one on the motherboard), so why would I enable support for that in my kernel? Sure, I could compile it as a module and let it sit there, taking up a few kilobytes of space on my hard drive but why?

      It makes no sense to support CD ROMs on a VR headset so I completely understand why they didn’t enable the driver. Even though it’s a “real PC”, the Steam Frame is still embedded hardware.

      I want to know why this person wants CD ROM support! The Steam Frame has at least a 256GB SSD and a Micro SD card slot. Just put the ISO (or .bin/.cue files) on one of those and mount it like any other loopback filesystem or use FUSE cdemu (yes, Linux has support for that built-in; unlike Windows haha). It’ll be a zillion times faster and a vastly superior experience!

      Aside: Yes, I know Windows 11 can natively mount an ISO file but it only supports a limited subset of the filesystems that you can find on CD/DVD ROMs. So unless the image is ISO9660 with the Joilet extension or UDF, it’s not going to work. Example: Trying to mount a PS1 CD ROM works in Linux but not Windows. Not without 3rd party stuff, anyway.

      • Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2 days

        Porn? Maybe some early VR DVDs or maybe they are burning / buying content that way…I have no clue I’m not familiar with the space.

        Maybe music? Queue up some cool visuals in the goggles while listening to we tunes.

        • Riskable@programming.devEnglish
          1 day

          Any CD or DVD can be ripped into a mountable/runnable .iso file. There’s no reason to keep the CD/DVD ROM hardware connected.

          • BCsven@lemmy.caEnglish
            1 day

            Only SSD space would limit you. And I guess physical media being easier to manage for longer term storage.

    • klankin@piefed.caEnglish
      2 days

      The kernel has a ton of optional modules that they’d be stupid to include them all. They certainly don’t need support for an obscure Quebec companies GPUs that stopped producing in the 90s.

      Its pretty standard operating to cut out any cruft you can, saves on storage, boot times, etc. This one was probably saving milliseconds and kilobytes, so presumably not much thought was given to disabling it, nor needed to reenable it.

      • woelkchen@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1 day

        The kernel has a ton of optional modules that they’d be stupid to include them all.

        True but part of Valve’s marketing for Frame is the expansion slot, so at least peripherals compatible with ARM hardware were probably meant to be enabled and this was an oversight.

        • klankin@piefed.caEnglish
          1 day

          Thats valid, and due to the speed of the update I wouldn’t be surprised if it was already in their testing suite.

      • BassTurd@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 days

        The existence of it also adds another potential attack vector for hackers. It’s unlikely that this would be a real problem, but any additional software is just another place that could be exploited.

        • klankin@piefed.caEnglish
          2 days

          Thats a really good point, especially with the more obscure modules.

          It must be interesting for steam to develop a hackable device in a market that usually locks their hardware down so aggressively.

          • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            1 day

            I mean just because steam doesn’t mind you tinkering with their own hardware doesn’t mean they should not try to secure the base system OS against outside intrusion (like a RAT entering in via an AUR installation using modules as an entry point)

            • klankin@piefed.caEnglish
              1 day

              Yeah, sorry I meant more in the way that a user in a VM is a really different threat surface to a full root user.

              For sure both should apply security patches, and avoid malware, I’m just wondering even within that model what the differences are.

      • massive_bereavement@fedia.io
        2 days

        Again?! An unwarranted attack by the anglophones against the Québécois GPU artisans!

        L’enterrement de cyber-crapaud!!

        • klankin@piefed.caEnglish
          2 days

          Still needs to be read from disk/flash, for the kernel to know it exists. And more relevantly every module has a number of dependencies that will all contribute to size/boot times in their own way.

          Maybe even milliseconds is giving it too much, but bloat is really important especially near the release of new hardware.

          I imagine the last thing anyone was worried about in crunch time was if they enabled enough random hardware in their config file.

      • Axolotl.cpp@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        18 hours

        Uhm, they just did not thought of enabling the kernel module because it’s an embeeded system that has no CD/DVD/BlueRay reader…

        • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          17 hours

          … it’s intended to have stuff added to it. It’s like having a modular pc without the drivers for controllers or a keyboard and mouse.

          • Axolotl.cpp@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            14 hours

            No one though of adding a CD drive to a VR apparently, which makes sense considering you are supposed to move with a VR

            • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              13 hours

              Cd drives have been usb powered for decades now, people use them on the deck, why wouldn’t they use it on VR? It’s a feature they essentially chose to remove from one device to the next.

                • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  13 hours

                  I use it to transfer cd ISOs to it while I’m not actively gaming.

                  Why on earth would you assume it would be used for active gaming? Hardly any games run off the cd anyways, it installs to the HD since it loads in a fraction of the time.

      • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2 days

        Nothing wrong with good publicity for listening to their users.

        • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2 days

          How’s this a bug?

          And cd support is the current hot issue with gaming. It’s free publicity, not many people know about it being already available and they artificially limited it. So even if people know and get it out there, the publicity generated is far more positive and washes that out.

          This is a common marketing tactic. They look like the good guys for adding a feature that was “requested”. Because of course people are gonna bring it up with everything going on.

          • klankin@piefed.caEnglish
            2 days

            Still clearly is now an intended feature, that yeah I’d even consider it being overlooked as a bug.

            Assuming every single thing they do is a calculated, profit driven decision is like blaming all your bad luck on the devil, without proof youre just swatting imaginary faries.

            I’d be insanely surprised if like 1 TV commercial would market leagues above “some company most old people don’t recognise changed something about a thing most people don’t know how works. The company claims its a positive”.

            • IlCaviale@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1 day

              the devil

              IT’S NOT THE DEVIL IT’S GABE NEWELL

              STEAM SKIMS 15% OFF OF EVERY MARKET TRANSACTION

              30% OFF OF EVERY GAME PURCHASE

              THOSE TRANSACTIONS ARE DENOMINATED IN FUN BUCKS THAT YOU ALREADY PAID TAXES ON

              EVERY TIME AN ITEM CHANGES HANDS, THE FUN BUCKS DIMINISH AND VALVE KEEPS A FRACTION

              YOU CAN’T TAKE OUT THE FUN BUCKS FROM THEIR CIRCUIT LEGALLY, BECAUSE IT’S LITERALLY A FUCKING CASINO

              EVERY VALVE GAME IS A STORE FRONT FOR LITERAL FUCKING NFTS AND LOOTBOXES THAT CONTAIN NFTS

              AND YOU GUYS KEEP SUCKING THE COCK OF A GUY WHO DOESN’T JUST OWN A YACHT BUT A YACHT COMPANY THAT HE OWNS BECAUSE OF THE ABOVE

              It’s literally DIGITAL COIN CLIPPING

              • BillionaireStew@lemmy.worldEnglish
                17 hours

                Also Steam acquired its user base in the first place by vendor lock-in on Quake mods. (Counter-Strike derived from Navy Seals Quake, Team Fortress was originally a Quake mod, and Half-Life is a Quake total conversion originally sold on a CD-ROM in a box.)

            • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1 day

              And this is why it works, people make excuses for them when people point this stuff out.

              I would be extremely disappointed with their marketing group if this didn’t come up.

              But sure, it’s a “bug” since it’s “now” an intended feature and they get credit for fixing it. That’s incredibly backwards thinking. You’re making my case for me, while defending this corporation. It’s crazy how apparantly only Valve is somehow immune to this here.

              • klankin@piefed.caEnglish
                1 day

                So what’s the marketing team say when 1500 indexes join a botnet cause they didn’t properly audit the CDrom code?

                Really worth the potential 3 extra sales, by ruining your entire reputation as youre trying to build it.

                • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  1 day

                  Hyperbole is not a good look, especially when you’re clearly using fake numbers to make it so lopsided in your favor.

                  Clearly it was so easy they could do it so fast (article specifieds 10 minutes even for you….), so why didn’t they? It couldn’t have been for an audit, and if it was, that wasn’t that robust of one of its out so fast now isn’t it? I wouldn’t trust a 10 minute audit, that’s nuts.

                  Quit making excuses for them.

                  And as I said it’s a common marketing tactic, guerilla marketing uses the exact process you’re decrying.

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1 day

      Also this guy when Valve releases something with a bug: “Why don’t those clowns at Valve care about software quality and testing‽ “

    • calliope@retrolemmy.comEnglish
      1 day

      “Bureaucracy” like finding the config option, running tests, and committing to source control would all build up to more than one minute if a human does it.

      It’s extraordinarily common to underestimate how long easy things take though!

      I totally believe it took less than ten minutes. I don’t believe it would take less than one.

  • Happy Cat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 days

    deckard-linux-no-oopsies GitHub repository

    😂 No oopsies allowed guys, this is serious.

    I truly believe a good way to see if a company has had its soul removed is seeing how completely scrubbed of any levity it is internally. This is a great sign imo for how steam runs.