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24 hours

I Regret Migrating to Codeberg

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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1282049/i-regret-migrating-to-codeberg

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    A brief comment on Codeberg’s new terms, and why a free-software host deciding which projects are welcome worries me more than the bans themselves.
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    • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zipEnglish
      21 hours

      It’s driven by Forgejo. Just use that to host your own if you disagree with the services given to you for free.

      Also Fuck the AI hype.

      • StrawberryPigtails@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        23 hours

        Meh.

        Their soapbox, their rules. You don’t like their rules, self host and make your own.

        • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.worldEnglish
          24 hours

          Since this article is being cross-posted, I will reiterate my original response.

          The part that bothers me isn’t the specific ban on LLM projects, or the specific ban on cryptocurrency projects. It’s that a hub built around “free software” is now telling its users which kinds of software are deemed good and which are not, and that is closer to censorship than it might seem.

          What a stupid, ignorant, harmful take. I shouldn’t need to explain how or why theft, plagiarism, poor code quality, or uncountable other factors contribute to a broadly objective standard of “good” and “not good.” In fact, it is more “acceptable” versus “dangerous.”

          The false equivalence here is intolerable.

            • kibblebits@quokk.auEnglish
              23 hours

              If it’s legitimate code, do you think its topic alone is enough reason to refuse hosting it? What if the topic is one you agree with?

              • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.caEnglish
                22 hours

                Okay, I hear that you think you shouldn’t have to explain. But you do have to explain. And you also have to justify using what to me without that justification sounds like abusive language aimed at a present member, intended to browbeat someone merely for having a different opinion.

              • solrize@lemmy.mlEnglish
                18 hours

                I think a lot of Codeberg users are refugees from Github who didn’t want Microsoft telling them what to do. Joke’s on them, now they also don’t want Codeberg telling them what to do. Self-hosting is the answer, but something like federation between self-hosted forges also seems like a good idea.

                • db2@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  23 hours

                  😬

                  Ctrl+f “first amendment” shockingly didn’t find anything. It’s like one pinky toe away from saying it though.

                  Also blog writer, put down the italics and take three steps back.

                  • Optional@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    18 hours

                    TL;DR: First they came for the LLM and crypto warez?

                    idk

                    • PurpleFanatic@quokk.auEnglish
                      16 hours

                      I just don’t agree with the sentiment about how FOSS devs need it because theyre usually one man shows.

                      I’m a FOSS dev, and yes, I’m a one gal show. But, I was doing this before AI and I’ll be doing it the same way long after. I don’t want a so called “tool” that’s going to hallucinate security problems into my work.

                      • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
                        23 hours

                        yeah… idk man. If you don’t like Codeberg then don’t use it? Why write a whole blogpost against it?

                        There are others, and there is forgejo you can run yourself. So your ideals don’t align, they won’t everywhere you go, keep looking for one that does.

                          • terabyterex@lemmy.worldEnglish
                            22 hours

                            you are 100% correct

                            i question if the author even has open source projects. codeberg is designed for open source projects. i dont have open source but i have used azure devops and bitbucket, i could use gitlab but i am picking places based on project/issue management. but the point is, there are many options, codeberg is for open source and they have that mindset. every design decision they make ia for open soirce projects

                              • tomalley8342@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                13 hours

                                i question if the author even has open source projects.

                                Yeah you can see for yourself here: https://tty.fail/mrus

                                I mean it would be weird if he talked about migrating his projects off of codeberg if he didn’t have any projects to migrate.

                                  • terabyterex@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    4 hours

                                    that link didnt work but i didnt say he didnt have projects, i said open source. open source is a license.

                              • kingthrillgore@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                22 hours

                                Okay, bye then.

                                • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)@feddit.ukEnglish
                                  23 hours

                                  The part that bothers me isn’t the specific ban on LLM projects, or the specific ban on cryptocurrency projects. It’s that a hub built around “free software” is now telling its users which kinds of software are deemed good and which are not, and that is closer to censorship than it might seem. Once a platform writes into its terms that an entire category “harms its reputation” and can be removed on that basis, the deciding factor stops being whether the code is legal, or functional, or useful, and becomes whether it aligns with a position the platform has taken. […] Every platform I can think of that took this approach became divisive the moment it started enforcing an ideology on its users, whatever that ideology happened to be, and however justified it looked at the time.

                                  As acknowledged, Codeberg already doesn’t allow non-free software on it, that is itself pushing an ideology on its users. Extending this stance to other forms of software isn’t the big deal the author is making it out to be, software being free doesn’t absolve it of other moral implications.

                                  We now even have people like Linus Torvalds making the fairly reasonable argument that an LLM is just a tool, and “clearly a useful one”

                                  Appeal to authority. See this response.

                                    • cenzorrll@piefed.caEnglish
                                      21 hours

                                      We now even have people like Linus Torvalds making the fairly reasonable argument that an LLM is just a tool, and “clearly a useful one”

                                      Appeal to authority. See this response.

                                      I’d like to add that I’ve seen nothing from Linus saying he uses it to produce code, just to poke and prod it to find vulnerabilities. I see no issues with using it that way.

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