• Kaligalis@lemmy.world
    3 months

    No shit, Sherlock. There are tons of different causes for asthma. But yeah: daily inhaling half-burned hydrocarbons is likely one of them.

    So what’s the next approach of the Captain Obvious institute? Healing asthma by getting patients to quit smoking? Would probably work in a lot of cases… nicotine addiction is still common. I wouldn’t call it research though.

  • aev_software@programming.dev
    3 months

    72 households. With 1 asthma patient. This is insignificant and not representative. It’s meaningless.

  • Abyssian@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
    3 months

    Well, sure. If you put someone with asthma in an electric stove set to 450 for several hours, they will never have asthma issues again. But I imagine a gas stove would work just as well.

  • betanumerus@lemmy.caEnglish
    3 months

    breathing in something other that air is bad? that’s amazing!

    • quick_snail@feddit.nl
      3 months

      What is the definition of air? They’re all just mixes of gasses, no?

      • betanumerus@lemmy.caEnglish
        3 months

        Sorry there. Sometimes I forget not everyone took grade 5 science.

        Ask your oil buddies. They know more than you think.

  • Lumisal@lemmy.world
    3 months

    Are there any electric stoves that can give you Wok Hei though? I’ve seen only the ones that are wok shaped at least but they don’t get hot enough

    • solo@piefed.socialEnglish
      3 months

      There’s a link at the very top of the article, if you click on it, you will get another article and there you can find many links that take you to the relevant studies

      • Trilogy3452@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3 months

        Ah didn’t expect it to include the particular one it talked about. Thanks!

  • jaykrown@lemmy.world
    3 months

    I’ve been thinking about buying a hot plate for a while now, this has pushed me to get one. And wow, less than $20 is pretty awesome for 1000W. I rent, and never want to turn my gas stove on again.

    • heydjs@sh.itjust.works
      3 months

      Push it to ~$40 and get a decent portable induction. Anything is better than burning fuel in your face, but induction can burn a lot less cooking grease and food too. Proper venting is still important and some level of recirculated air filter goes a long way. Every step helps. Ouch, my lungs!

  • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3 months

    Properly vented-to-outside exhaust hoods (not the stupid kind that are built into microwaves and just shoot you in the top of the head with the air) should be required by building codes regardless of range type.

    • fatcat@discuss.tchncs.de
      3 months

      Exhaust hoods like that are a really bad idea (and actually forbidden in some places) when you have a system which requires open fire like a gas stove, an oven or a gas heating system. They transport air outside and depending on the age of the building not enough fresh air gets in while the fire is consuming all the oxygen.

      Also the reason why it is a really bad idea to have a gas heater for warm water and one of the mobile indoor acs. We have some deaths in Vienna every year because of that.

      Edit: nevermind, only somewhat true. The slight under pressure caused by exhaust hoods with outside vents pulls down exhaust fumes from the chimney in case of gas heaters. In case of ONLY a gas stove it is not the same problem (I threw them into one basket because most places with a gas stove also have gas heating around here, and in this cases it would be a big no-no).

      • VibeSurgeon@piefed.socialEnglish
        3 months

        A mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery should take care of this completely adequately I imagine, if your home happens to be air-tight enough to encounter this problem

      • AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml
        3 months

        In the US, builders have to calculate make up air for this specific reason. In very efficient houses, make up air units need to be installed.

    • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      3 months

      I agree but pretty much all microwaves can have their fan rotated to exhaust external also. It would go a long way to just mandate the required venting to support the orientation.

  • yessikg@fedia.io
    3 months

    Induction cooking is better for your health and more efficient

    • farmgineer@nord.pubEnglish
      3 months

      I used to swear by gas and never wanted to change. Moved to a place with 200v induction and haven’t looked back. I have a gas cartridge stove for disaster prep reasons, but I could also pull it out if I really wanted to blast something in a wok or the like (and could do that outside).

        • KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          3 months

          That depends, I might be losing the higher pitches tbh, but I noticed our stovetop responds differently to different pans/pots and to different loads. It’s noisier when a pan is misaligned, and it starts making more noises when all the “burners” are in use, and so I also imagine different models will also act somewhat differently.

        • catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works
          3 months

          What high pitch squeal lol? Worst over heard is a buzzing that is very much not high pitched and lasts until the pan heats up so like 60 seconds tops.

            • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
              3 months

              I can, fluorescent lights, CRTs, and cheap charging blocks bug the hell out of me. I’ve never noticed a high pitch squeal. Maybe it’s a problem with super cheap ranges?

  • eremophila@lemmy.zip
    3 months

    Not sure if a poorly conducted study, or just a poorly written one side of the dodgy duopoly fanboy article.

    I don’t doubt that burning gas is a health hazard in the home, but a longer term, larger based study seems like something that should have happened years ago.

    • chunes@lemmy.world
      3 months

      It’s a terrible study. They specifically waited to measure until the study participants were in a flare, and then changed the the stoves out and… gasp a disease that is notoriously flare-y got better

    • alavar@slrpnk.net
      3 months

      Links to older studies are literally in the first line of the article.

    • raspirate@lemmy.world
      3 months

      A surprisingly effective remedy in a culture full of people who are very protective of their god-given right to hit their head against a wall.

  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
    3 months

    Cool research. I’ve known for a while that electric stoves are better for air quality but I recently learned that they can still be harmful.

    I bought a fancier air filter as a family member with respiratory issues may be staying with us soon. This one has a sensor that reads the level of particulates in the room and I was surprised to learn that when I cook it was dramatically worsening our air quality, even though we use electric. Pan-frying on high heat can cause smoke particles that are hardly visible to be emitted and apparently in a small home it can make things quite bad. But I learned that it’s dramatically reduced by cooking on lower heat, so that’s what I plan to do going forward.

    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
      3 months

      Especially if you are using a coated pan.

      Never again, man. That shit is especially bad for you.

      It’s not any easier to care for, either. Teflon pans need to be handled with kid gloves or they get all scratched up and that shit gets into your food.

      • Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zipEnglish
        3 months

        My understanding is that research doesn’t generally support concerns that non-stick is harmful to people eating food cooked in coated pans, but it is absolutely incredibly toxic to the people who work manufacturing them, and their manufacturing does contribute to constantly rising levels of contanimation in water supplies. Both of which are magnified by the fact that nonstick pans are disposable.

        We as humanity really struggle to engage with systemic issues, and weirdly sometimes we will correctly identify that something is a problem, but are only capable of responding to it with cultural change due to concerns of individual harms we (to my understanding) don’t actually think are happening, when the systemic collective harms are.

        From my layperson understanding chemical fertilizers are the same, with chemical fertilizers having no issues associated with eating food grown with them but the nitrogen pollution in drinking water is associated with higher risk of cancer.

        (That being said if you like cast iron I 100% reccomend trying carbon steel- its best for slightly different things but my nitrided and pre-seasoned carbon steel pan from oxo is fuckin wonderful. I wanna try a strata carbon clad pan when I finally replace my 12" nonstick since I feel like the clad construction will make it lighter and more resistant to warping if I use it on induction since that can sometimes be an issue with carbon steel pans)

      • ivanvector@piefed.caEnglish
        3 months

        Also if you overheat Teflon it releases toxic fumes. You probably won’t get it hot enough by cooking, but if you accidentally left an empty pan on a lit stove it could get hot enough.

      • pageflight@piefed.socialEnglish
        3 months

        Yeah, I hand wash non-stick and hand wash cast iron, and the food usually leaves the cast iron cleaner (not to mention the induction only making a humming noise with the non-stick). I’ve been using cast iron a lot more lately.

        • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
          3 months

          I’m learning as I get older that many of the “better, newer” alternatives just straight up suck, and we just expect them to be better because that’s what we grew up accustomed to.

          Teflon pans and cartridge razors are the two best examples.

  • QuandaleDingle@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3 months

    Who knew that an appliance we have been using since the 19th century would be a dumb mistake. 🤷🏾‍♂️