
Oh I totally agree that ICE should not be allowed to get the information no matter what. Just saying there are several ways to get medicaid without having an SSN and sometimes even being in the country “illegally” and this is why they want the info. They don’t care about those special situations like an emergency or cancer or being an abuse victim or other exceptions, they want any means to find anyone they can deport even if it’s extremely cruel to do so. So yeah, for anyone they deported from those lists it was especially cruel to do so and nothing can justify giving them the info in the first place, but especially knowing the extreme situations the people that would be on those lists would have endured, it was beyond unconscionable.

I use Signal because it’s the best balance of privacy and security vs. convenience and reliability I have found. Not self-hosted, but I’ve yet to find a self hosted alternative that is as reliable, especially since I don’t want to set up distributed servers, and it’s one of those things that “just needs to work” or people will abandon it quickly.
And the older people I’ve convinced to use it, like my mom, have had very little trouble adopting it. It helped that RCS messaging is so unreliable on my phone since Google or my carrier keep seeming to break it (likely became I use GrapheneOS), and also for those with iPhones it is way more compatible with itself vs Apple and Google refusing to implement RCS in a way that all features work between them, like message reactions. Without RCS, my mom couldn’t send me decent quality pictures of my niece all the time, and I couldn’t send nice pictures of my outfits to the girl I’m dating, LOL.