drkt@scribe.disroot.orgEnglish
6 daysI could rant about the slop but it’s pointless because the developers of this didn’t even understand why Discord alternatives never work out.
- Bridging Discord without bots on Discord’s side is against Discord ToS, so don’t rely on that.
- P2P is a great idea except it scares the hoes so you’ve cut 80% of your market off right there.
- No federation so realistically everyone is gonna have to create and manage like 10 separate accounts for each of their friend groups, which even the most hardcore anti-Discord folks aren’t going to bother with.
Also this is a promo post, however sneaky you try to make it. Tag appropriately.
- aksdb@lemmy.worldEnglish6 days
Discord isn’t federated either and their tenancy is pretty strict (they even call it “servers” even though there is no actual server you create).
In that regard Haven follows that more strictly: your “server” is an actual independent instance you host yourself. You can still link other servers to have basically the same UX as Discord where you can switch between servers from the sidebar.
UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nlEnglish
6 daysYou make a point on federation but Haven does allow you to login using sso from your own server.
I guess it’s also about what you need, for a small server for a 3-12 friends it works fine where alternatives are total overkill to selfhost.
UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nlEnglish
6 daysOnce i find a different discord clone thats this easy to selfhost I’ll switch to it immediately. Before commenting I’d urge you to try selfhosting the other clones its a minefield of ports which scares me off tbh
drkt@scribe.disroot.orgEnglish
6 daysI’d urge you to try selfhosting the other clones
Lady I got a decade of experience trying to get off Discord. I know.
Matrix isn’t that hard if you can read, though, and it has actual users, and you get to control your account. It has other problems that make it non-viable.
UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nlEnglish
6 daysI did tag it?
Edit: I’ve now added it to the title too, I guess some clients don’t support piefed’s tags
UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nlEnglish
6 daysTurns out the piefed tags don’t federate with lemmy, if you want proof I wasn’t acting in bad faith look at the post from my server.
https://piefed.nl/c/selfhosted@lemmy.world/p/226603/haven-discord-alternative-discussion-on-p2p-mediasoup-livekit
UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nlEnglish
6 daysHere is the docker-compose file I’m using (I reverse proxy http://localhost:3000/ on the host):
services: haven: container_name: haven image: ghcr.io/ancsemi/haven:latest ports: - 127.0.0.1:3000:3000 volumes: - ./data:/data environment: - PORT=3000 - FORCE_HTTP=true restart: unless-stopped UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nlEnglish
6 dayshttps://github.com/shadowflee3/fluxer-selfhost
As comparison fluxer which I was much more interested in (polyproto federation, better UX mobile and web, hype) needs 4 containers (ex. proxy & certbot) needs 80 443 7700 7880 7881 3478 50000-50100 ports & two configuration files that needs edits to connect them.
- SteveTech@aussie.zoneEnglish5 days
Fluxer are also moving away from LiveKit, so hopefully that means it’ll require less ports soon.
- aksdb@lemmy.worldEnglish6 days
You can also keep an eye on Chatto. For WebRTC it requires LiveKit, but otherwise is self contained.



