- jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
Indeed, usually a NIMBY is seen as bad because while they do want the value of the thing they reject, they just don’t want to deal with the downsides personally.
Here the folks are generally already satisfied with what the existing infrastructure provides, so if there’s no datacenter growth overall, that’s fine by them.
- Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish4 days
nimby would never allow it near thier wealthy neighborhoods, its always low-income districts.
- xenomor@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
To be more precise about it, the local governments are seizing people’s land on behalf of the power companies, not the companies themselves as implied by the headline. My point is that we should not let the governments and the elected officials off the hook here. To the extent that we’re doing democracy anymore, there’s presumably a mechanism to stop more of this.
- 5 days
It’s more been threatened than actually happened, but I would suggest keeping in mind that the issue isn’t eminent domain or the power companies (though obviously fuck them, they should be nationalized), the issue is the data centers and the government not restricting those. If more power is needed there’s not much to be done other than build more power infrastructure. The issue is allowing these data centers to be built in such an unsustainable and harmful way that puts pressure on the grid.
- Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish4 days
this is like the foxconn scam, in the trumps 1st term. the govt used “blight” as a way to forcibley remove people form the area so they can build thier factories there.
- ChicoSuave@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
Why are private businesses using the public tool of eminent domain? That’s corruption.
- terabyterex@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
they arent. only government can do it and it hasnt happened yet.
- ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
It doesn’t have to get as far as eminent domain. In at least one Georgia case the land was condemned by local authorities, the start of the legal process of eminent domain, and the family was no longer able to live in it regardless. So the use of eminent domain as a threat to force the sale of privately held land is already happening.
This quote is from one article of many about how non-local companies use condemnation as a tool to steal land, and how that has a very long history in the US. This particular article is about how a community in Nashville attempted to use condemnation in the other direction, condemning a property wanted by a data center so that no one could use it, but it gives the history pretty well.
- Zephyr@sh.itjust.worksEnglish5 days
China has been pretty direct about it with their east to west project. So far I really haven’t heard anyone in China complaining but maybe that’s because of their strict media control.
- 5 days
But it has been threatened several to coerce people into sales…
- CanIFishHere@lemmy.caEnglish5 days
So even the headline is a lie. The data centers are bad enough. No need to embellish or use misinformation.
- Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
Idk man being robbed at gunpoint kinda sucks whether you give up your wallet or not.
Whether the gun is used to rob you by shooting you before taking your wallet, or threatening people so they have no choice but to hand you your wallet or get shot, in either case the gun was used to rob you.
- Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
It was neither exaggerated, nor made up. You’re just hopelessly obtuse.
- CanIFishHere@lemmy.caEnglish4 days
Or maybe I English better because I know the difference between ‘are using’ and ‘could use’.
- Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
They are using it, as I’ve explained to you. You’re just a lil slow on the uptake