Star Citizen has a disastrously laggy stream with horrendous vibes, which isn't a great look when you're past $1 billion in funding

He’s been a piece of shit for eleven years. I’ve dealt with that fucking asshole.

holy shit how long have they been doing legally distinct inside gaming! love how YouTube has decided to never recommend them to me ever, not like I have watched hundreds of hours of Inside Gaming and Funhaus.

Most people already have. It is just that it has a small hardcore fanbase, which behaves oddly cult-like. As long as you don’t move in those circles you will never hear of the game except for when they fuck up so badly that even game journalists are reminded that the game exists.

I hear about it 1-2 times a year at this point.

Each time almost nothing has changed.

I’ve still got my Protostar. I’m okay with yoyo and skateboards making a big comeback

It’s also the friends they made along the way.

Which there wasn’t. All those people in the video hate each other. You can tell by how they were making snide comments and nobody was supportive of anybody.

They have more than a tech demo though, right? I haven’t been following, but isn’t the game technically already playable with people? It’s just full of bugs and missing features.

I still have my 10-10-10 Golden Ticket. What a joke. Glad I only put down $60 back then.

I played it a bit during a “free weekend” a few years back. It felt lifeless and dull. Then I discovered how long it was going to take to get to the next planet/asteroid/whatever the objective was in my ship for the sake of “realism” and I was out.

Definition of scam: to deceive and defraud (someone)

I dunno man. They made a ton of promises in the past decade. Wasn’t there supposed to be a first person shooter?

That’s pretty deceiving.

It’s a scam like a Ponzi scheme is a scam. Nothing they have promised has been delivered in over ten years. They have lied countless times to get more backer money. The original concept for the Kickstarter was tossed out long ago, those people definitely got scammed! They were told too bad the scope changed after the kickstarter! It is a fucking scam and I’ll die on that hill.

No, it’s a scam. Hard disagree.

It’s no different than all those NFT based games from 6 years ago, only this is 10x bigger than any of them ever got. No actual game will ever be released, everyone who paid as much on a digital ship as an actual used car will ever get to properly fly it as they were promised.

I wouldn’t call it a scam either. Just another shitty game farming whales. They actually refunded me so there’s that. I wasted an hour of my life on that thing.

It’s a shame because you can see the potential, there’s nothing else quite like it. You can wake up in your apartment, walk around the city/base you’re in, take a train to the spaceport, find your hangar, get in your ship, start your ship, take off and go somewhere. It has potential to be incredibly immersive but it’s beyond clear the devs don’t care about making it into a good game.

The controls are totally bizarre, unintuitive, and poorly designed. Everything you do is bugged in some way. The performance is ass. Terrible and confusing HUD design. The game is a complete chore to play. Got my refund and I’ll never even consider going back.

Just because you’re okay with it doesn’t make it not a scam.
False advertising is a scam.
SC is a scam.

Correct, it is a development nightmare yes, it is beyond ridiculously delayed, it is overhyped, it is overpriced, it is predatory, it is stupid in countless ways, but a scam is intentionally fraudulent and anyone making that claim of Star Citizen is being disingenuous. It is a game being actively developed by idiotic, toxic, malignant narcissists powered largely by self-absorbed vanity, but that’s not the same thing as a scam perpetrated by fraudsters. They’re both very, very bad, but they’re also very, very much not the same thing and we should stop confusing such basic concepts with each other.

It’s less a game and more a sim. They’ll not fix broken box missions, but spend weeks on fart mechanics. Either they are incompetent or intentionally stalling. I personally believe the latter.

They don’t intend to leave alpha because they’re making money from ship sales. It’s pretty, but it’s not fun when you run, and boom, you dead. 45 mins to get back there.

Even scams have valid products behind them.

You can FEEL how much they hate each other.

What a toxic relationship.

You must be new here. They’ve been pieces of shit for over a decade.

Yep, you’re totally right.

leading to a deeply uncomfortable moment where Jared Huckaby, content director on the game, leans behind Hull and says: “We’re at time—it’s your show, wrap it up.”

Doing this to someone in public is something a dickhead would do. When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time.

i droped out of elite dangerous when they made it so you could transition offline. so like, if you are transporting cargo, you would go offline and only be interdicted by the hapless bots. they would save up money to buy the super ships to pirate or to bounty hunt or to guard. but what is there to pirate? the haulers are offline. what pirates are there to hunt? the haulers are off line, what convoys are their to guard? the haulers are off line.

pvp was relegated to prebuilt nascar like standardization, and prevented limpets from forcing open cargo holds. it got super boring super quick

There’s also Parkan 2 and X2/X3, if it can be a done and ready game.

I enjoyed my time with that game for a while. Then it got tedious. It’s a mile wide and an inch deep.

I’m gonna say elite is generally a hard sell because of the steep learning curve. I love it and have over 1,300 hours, but only after a friend brought me back because I was so lost my first time playing it. I similarly quit trying the on-foot stuff on 3 separate occasions because it’s so difficult to figure it out, and failing a mission often results in a fine or bounty you have to then find an interstellar factor to pay off.

Then there’s the engineer grind. I won’t speak on that here.

It’s frustrating because the game is incredibly deep with faction mechanics, system states, market demands, etc. but all of that is basically inaccessible in any reasonable manner without 3rd party tools. Outside that your options are exploration, shipping, combat, mining, and that’s about it.

That said, if you want a somewhat realistic space sim, it’s probably the best you can find. Just make sure you have a guide and inara.cz bookmarked.

I have 1000s of hours in Elite: Dangerous since 2016 and I would still play it if I didn’t have other real-life commitments. I’ve spent probably half that time in VR which was awesome. I dropped off when they added FPS gameplay that didn’t have great VR support, but I can’t think of another space game that I’ve played that gave me the same feeling that Elite did.

The original Arena Commander was fun until they gave into the “muh HOTAS” crowd and nerfed the actually fun combat mechanics.

Turns out I liked the game only because of what I thought the game could be instead of what it actually was.

I never played Star Citizen, but this is kinda where I ended up with No Man’s Sky. I played it at launch and again earlier this year and there’s definitely some fun to be had but nothing fits together right, or feels fully realized. NMS lost a coherent vision of the game at some point and eventually it just made me itch to play better games that were more focused.

Dude it is still barely a game after all this time and that’s only barely more true than in 2016.

I had more fun fucking around Olisar and Jump

I heard about star citizen when I was a teen, and it looked soooo cool. Unfortunately my PC was not strong enough. So I saved up for months to buy a PC specifically to play Star Citizen. Finally, I had all the upgrades I needed for the PC. Started excitedly pouring over Roberts Space Industries to pick my ship. Noticed the pricing model was… Off. In fact, this felt like a scam. Hold on, there’s no real game I could actually play? Decided to hold off until something released I could play, ideally with friends, and ideally via a less obfuscated pricing model.

Anyways, I’ve checked in with SC about once a year since. I’m about to begin the process to finance a house with my girlfriend of 9 years. Exciting times ahead.

I’m pretty sire SC won’t have released anything close to what was promised in 2012 by the time I retire, MUCH less anything promised since.

(Btw I was not a smart teen. I fell for lots of things and lost money to scams and stupid games. I got lucky with SC, because in an alternate universe, I might also be stuck in sunk cost fallacy.)