- snoons@lemmy.caEnglish8 days
Well yeah, it’s a service. Expecting profit from necessary services is stupid and counter-productive but it makes a few people rich so of course it happens then you get memes like this.
- 8 days
Well you could just like, put all that tax money into decentralized renewable energy sources…that would also be profitable.
While not causing waste that cant be touched for the next million years.
While also lessening your dependence on nuclear fuel imports from political less than optimal nations or sources where the mining of it causes radio active dust to contaminate the population (Russia/USA and Australia).
8 daysThis has got to be the single silliest take I have seen so far on this website, like holy shit this is pants-on-head silly
- VibeSurgeon@piefed.socialEnglish8 days
Efficient use of resources still matters in a service-driven model.
The service in this case is to provide electricity - if other alternatives can provide the same system of electricity while using less resources in the process, then it is clearly preferable.
- overcast5348@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
Externalized costs are a thing though. For instance, a coal plant spewing smoke (and radiation) costs everyone else money. A nuclear plant OTOH is usually responsible for dealing with all of its own shit. So it’s not always an apples to apples comparison to consider just the profitability of a project.
- bacon_pdp@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
You do realize that they made nuclear recycling illegal in the USA right?
Which is ironic because nuclear waste is 97% pure fuel and the remaining 3% has other uses in medicine or have half-lives measured in minutes/hours or are stable (like gold)
- BambiDiego@lemmy.zipEnglish8 days
If you ever need firefighters make sure you ONLY go to a profitable firehouse, or you’ll be a huge hypocrite. Either that or stupid.
Also make sure you ONLY drive on profitable roads, and ONLY use private delivery services. And ONLY during the day because of streetlights.
A public service should be a public service, not profitable from the basic level.
- 8 days
A public service should be a net profit in standards of living of the people who make up the public. And i proclaim that nuclear power plants dont do that in the long term. They drain the public out of resources that could have been invested in better solutions that dont come with the downsides of radio active waste products.
- Phil_in_here@lemmy.caEnglish8 days
I’ll admit I don’t know much about the polluting effects of nuclear, but wouldn’t it be considered a net benefit in regards to the devastatingly expensive damage of climate change compared to burning coal and gas?
- 8 days
There has never been a reactor that produced more energy than it took to construct? You sure about that?
Otherwise this is a capitalism meme, not a science meme.
- 8 days
Economics is a human made concept, not a universal fact.
You would have been better off arguing it’s important because it’s math.
- 8 days
Economics is a human made concept, not a universal fact.
So are numbers and math.
To stay real here tho, i made this meme because i noticed the number of people in this sublemmy, who are thinking that nuclear power plants are a solution to climate change, is to damn high.
And i keep seeing them echoing tales that where seeded by the fissile fuel industry.
I get that from a physics nerds standpoint nuclear energy is “cool” but that dosent make it a good overall solution to the problems we facing.
- bryophile@lemmy.zipEnglish8 days
Science, language and logic are human made concepts too. It is not like science is uncovering universal truth that was already there, it is also mediated through human symbols just like economics. Even maths cannot be equated to universal facts. It only makes sense within our human symbology.
I do agree economics is the least worthwhile of all sciences. But the meme is about nuclear reactors too and they are sciency?
- lemonhead2@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
why is there such a negative sentiment towards nuclear power? was it all oil and gas propaganda? or is there some truth
- fullsquare@awful.systemsEnglish8 days
the man who decided to end german nuclear power production getting a seat in gazprom doesn’t inspire confidence in reality-based discussion of this subject
- 8 days
Because it only makes sense if you also need to run nuclear Submarines with ICBMs on them.
Basically Nuclear power has always been a military project thats just “Dual use” to offset the cost by having tax payers foot the bill for civilians plants.
Doing that makes the whole supply chain cheaper for the Military usage…cuz mining it only for military usage only would be hella expensive and harder to justify towards the population.
- Bashnagdul@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
This is only for uranium and plutonium based nuclear power. There are others that don’t produce weapons grade byproducts. Helium 3 for instance and other versions of uranium. Also cobalt is an option.
As long as we want to pay for power, it can be profitable, in the sense that we pay what we need and people who work there are paid fairly as well.
Chernobyl, Fukushima, 3 Mile Island. Plus uranium is another non-renewable resource.
I’m still pro nuke as getting off fossil fuels is of the utmost urgency, but we will have to learn to live off wind and solar.
- Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.caEnglish8 days
So what has released more uncontrolled waste into the world, all the nukes including those, or the equivalent mega-wattage of all other human power generation? Our entire global community is FUCKED to the tune of hundreds of trillions of dollars from consequences of petro, while meanwhile very few of us are suffering from the effects of nuclear power generation. Nukes don’t replace solar and wind, they complement them.
- Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
You’re in the comments trying to act like you’re more noble, but if your very first angle and the one you built your post on is about profitability then you’ve already lost. You made a strawman and are just mad that it was called out.
Yea, renewables would be better, for sure. Talk about that, then, if that’s what you really care about.
- 8 days
You have to get the people in somehow. And i was sick of ppl calling nuclear cheap solution to climate change when it clearly isnt, thence i choose the word profitable.
