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11 hoursI hope the slate truck does phenomenally well for several reasons, but one of them is most certainly to spank the fuck out of these shit-ass manufacturers who want to gaslight us into thinking screens were ever a good fucking idea for an automotive interface.
- 14 hours
This is one of those things that might actually serve to push the notion that digital devices (including cars now) should be required to be capable of installing independent operating systems, especially open source ones.
I’d absolutely require military devices to be driven by open source software. And yes, that’s a security liability, but security-by-obscurity is an even greater liability.
In the case of consumer devices, open-source access would be a means of protecting the end user from predatory software rife with dark patterns.
- CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
And yes, that’s a security liability
Hardly. If anything it’s a benefit to security. You don’t have to run all the secret stuff using FOSS stuff. Just anything that runs the hardware (like the OS itself).
- THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.worldEnglish21 hours
I would absolutely hack a car to remove garbage like this. The people who paid the cost of entry for these cars may be putting up with it now, but that won’t go on forever as it slips down the model line into cars normal people can acquire.
- Benaaasaaas@group.ltEnglish19 hours
And then they will all be asking, why are people buying chinese cars
- 20 hours
I intentionally bought a car with the least intrusive ipad and if a company ever comes out with a car that is all analog I will only buy that car. Honestly the ipad wouldn’t even be needed if they just gave me a place to dock my phone.
- 20 hours
I’d be shocked if it wasn’t illegal to hack your own car by now. People are very authoritarian about vehicles. They’re fine with unreasonable prices, mass surveillance, facial recognition, endless registries, and forced subscriptions (yes, that’s insurance) and eat up any justification the government gives them for it.
- T3CHT @sh.itjust.worksEnglish14 hours
Y’all aren’t following gear head news, huh? https://www.slashgear.com/2092803/doj-no-charges-diesel-engine-delete-tune/ Yes, I hate coal rolling.
And I also LOVE using Forscan on the family truckster. Thing is, some big companies think it’s a good idea to make rules about what you’re allowed to access (open software, repair ability) instead of what you can do (emissions, road rules), and that’s the wrong way to have a free and organized civilization, but it’s great for profit.Tl;Dr right to repair is right to hack, don’t ban that but do enforce limits on how things are actually used.
- T3CHT @sh.itjust.worksEnglish14 hours
See also, laws that are intended to limit 3d printing in the name of gun control. We don’t have gun use control in the US, but boy do we have lobbyists with reasons to restrict what we can print. Maybe even some gun manufacturers!
- zergtoshi@lemmy.worldEnglish23 hours
How long until you have to watch an ad before you can start going with the car?
- dumpymctruckers@lemmy.worldEnglish21 hours
Driver awareness camera detects inattentive driver. Ad restarting, please pay attention
- 14 hours
How long before some truck manufacturer sees their truck returned to them as a truck bomb after pulling this shit?
- Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
How much can we pay to buy a PSA about using the fucking turn signals?
- 1 day
What an awful “premium” brand. They’re the same ones trying for subscription access to heated seats, remote start, or driver assistance features among others.
What a crap brand.
- 1 day
I think it’s already the case on turn signals, but nobody noticed
- variaatio@nord.pubEnglish1 day
That is the weirdest thing. I can understand bottom of the barrel economy brand going “The initial cash is small, but we will nickle and dime you on the service fees and show ads. What can you do, afford a different car? Don’t think so.”
Premium brand like BMW? What you smoking there in Bavary?
Your customers can afford to choose another car. Your price is high enough people expect smooth nice experience. Not annoying ads or clear pointless cash grabs like charging for already installed seat heaters. Sell the trim package or not.
What people will accept is “okay the maintenance and service at garage costs, if one wants to maintain this in nice condition”. Those suspension bushings, dampers, springs, tires and so on still need the normal amount of premium garage priced maintenance.
- BackgrndNoize@lemmy.worldEnglish22 hours
Exactly stupid nickel and dime cons like this are the fastest way to destroy brand image that takes decades to build, when I was ready to buy my first expensive Android phone I bought a Samsung Galaxy as I thought Samsung built good quality premium phones, and then I noticed that they had ads built into it through their default apps just like the budget android phone makers like Xiomi etc and I immediately lost all respect for the Samsung brand, my next phone was an iPhone after that
- melfie@lemmy.zipEnglish1 day
If you willingly paid a premium price for a car where there’s a subscription to use built-in features that even “non-premium” brands have, then are ads on your screen really going to be a dealbreaker?
- tabarnaski@sh.itjust.worksEnglish13 hours
Especially if you can get rid of them for a small monthly fee.
- BigTwerp@feddit.ukEnglish1 day
I leased a BYD seal for the last few weeks as an extended test drive and it has adverts on the screen you use to change the climate control so…
- 0ops@piefed.zipEnglish22 hours
Picture? I tried searching for an example online and couldn’t find one
- ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish21 hours
This is much more acceptable when the product itself is cheap. See also: “smart” TVs for a hundred bucks.
- BigTwerp@feddit.ukEnglish1 day
Adverts for BY D own products are still adverts.
Truth hurts?
Ok you do you.
- 1 day
The adverts that I have never once seen when I drive my car?
Pretty cool how we live in some parallel reality
Or, you could just be full of shit
- BackgrndNoize@lemmy.worldEnglish22 hours
Tech companies do something called A/B testing where they will release a “feature” such as Ads to a segment of the user base and not to the others to see how they respond to decide if they want to release it to everyone, so yes in many instances we do live in parallel realities.
- stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish1 day
The EU should ban this crap as soon as possible, it is clearly a distraction from driving
- BlaestEgnen@feddit.dkEnglish1 day
Given EU have created laws to require physical knobs for key features, I’d imagine this will be stopped as well.
BMW is the brand that tests for profit initiatives to see if they stick, I recall them being reported to attempt seated heating as a subscription a few years back
- 20 hours
Wasn’t the EU going for cameras on drivers at all times?
It doesn’t make things much better, but:
the ad appears when the car is started, with an option to play it or not being displayed on the screen. I suppose that’s better than it autoplaying, but just barely.
Also, it doesn’t play while you’re driving.
BTW, according to BMW it’s not an ad, lol:
To celebrate the partnership with Spider-Man™: Brand New Day, BMW has a special surprise for its drivers. The Spider-Man™ Animation will be available (in participating markets) to all customers with suitably equipped vehicles … bla bla bla
Once again: since there’s no way of getting around surveillance & IoT bullshit in cars, I’m just going to have to take extremely good care of my old clunker.
For now you can skip it. Later you need verification fuel for your car to do that.
- 22 hours
I will continue to pray for Slate to not completely suck. There’s a “smart” module that has a cellular modem, but it’s something you have to opt into and pay for it.
Same. I have a 2016 Subaru Outback that I wouldn’t mind giving to my daughter, but like hell am I buying anything connected to the Internet and tracking my every drive (for profit). Slate and to a lesser degree: Rivian are my only EV choices right now.
- IphtashuFitz@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
Some marketing executive earned their paycheck for the month by coming up with this…
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish20 hours
This would be a neat gimmick if it came with free tickets to the movie. Considering the price of the cars and the fact that only newish ones get the ad, they could afford it. It might even be positive PR.
How considerate, after you watch the ad, they leave a new button on the dashboard, so you can watch the ad again and again
- TIEPilot@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
If this shit came on while driving I would wreck the car ans sue the shit out of BMW.
But I’m not an asshole, so I’ll never own a BMW…
- 1 day
It is illegal to show anything like that while the car is in gear.
However, it’s completely fine as soon as you turn it on, or are sitting parked, or in aux mode.
- ReignOfTerror@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
Turn on car, forced to watch an ad before you can shift into park. Turn off car, forced to watch an ad before the doors unlock and let you out. This is the future…
Fine, put it in park in a drive through. Suddenly McDonald’s bans BMW drivers from the drive through because it won’t go into gear until the commercial ends, which becomes more of a a problem than either brand wants to admit. The internet does what it does and now BMW becomes the new Chevy Beretta.
Let’s play this game. I am powered by spite and way too much accumulated PTO.
- NarrativeBear@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
I though it was illegal to even do that. For example, parked at a read light and texting is definitely illegal. You need to pull over completely off the road to do that.
So I don’t see how a car can show you ads at a read light or stop sign, this literally diverts your attention away from the intersection and surrounding area.
- 1 day
Park, like not just braked but fully parking gear, so not at a red.
There’s nothing like the freedom of having a car, trapped in a traffic jam, being forced to watch adverts. At least you won’t notice all the cyclists going past you.
- Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish20 hours
Yeah, there’s a guy in the crosswalk, but are you happy with your hemorrhoid ointment?
- Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 day
The most amazing thing about all this is the execs that came up with the idea genuinely seem to think people want this.
How out of touch can you get?
Nope. They didn’t think it was a great idea because people will like it. They thought it was a great idea because of money.
- picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 day
If you have worked with marketing or brand of a large corp, those people are always the furthest away from the real work a company does. They have no idea of the real customer base, only numbers on engagement and NPS reports.
No, they think shareholders want it. They don’t care about consumers at all. The shareholders are the only people companies care about. The consumer doesn’t matter at all.
