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- 3 months
They better get ready on finding these idiots because now they got people who remove the LED lights.
- 3 months
Probably a good place to ask, how many of my fellow lemmings are in vegas next week for the conferences??
- YeahToast@aussie.zoneEnglish3 months
I personally hate the fact that capatilists have fucked our trust so much we can’t have augmented reality glasses. I was really looking forward to that.
- Landless2029@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
These camera lenses are nowhere near AR.
MS HoloLens was the closest we got and it was targeted at businesses. Flopped badly. Died.
- Pycorax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 months
It wouldn’t have flopped if they didn’t just gave up on it. They were so far ahead of everyone else but just like they did with WP, they refused to continue building up its potential.
3 monthsIf someone other than Microsoft managed it, it might have gone farther, honestly. Nobody kills a good idea as efficiently as Microsoft.
- 3 months
MS usually does it before anyone else, releases a product, fails to market it, product dies to exec cutback, then three years later Apple does it and it’s amazing.
Apples business models has always been about figuring out why something a competitor did flopped then fixing the flaw (either by improving the tech or just better marketing and management). The industry feeds apple as much as they steal from it. It’s a slow grown company.
Microsoft is basically “we were really aggressive back in the day, established a monopoly everybody hates, and cannot figure out how to compete with modern alternatives in a way that won’t piss off investors”.
Apple is no saint, but they never lied about what they were doing. Microsoft, on the other hand, deserved everything that happened to them.
We need an Open Source version of these glasses. It’s the only solution that will work.
- barryamelton@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
Open source doesnt solve them having a camera and recording everything.
No but at least the data isn’t being immediately uploaded to Meta / Google / Apple or whatever for storage and processing.
If they are Open Source it also opens the door for some kind of control device that a person could have that broadcasts a “Do Not Record” signal that could in theory prevent Open Source glasses from recording in your presence. That kind of thing will never happen with Commercial / For Profit glasses.
- 3 months
If they were only just that, AR.
Instead they’re “record everyone around you without their consent and post the footage online without their consent to be commented on and shared by others” glasses.
- lemmelemmy@feddit.orgEnglish3 months
I love the fact lately meta glasses are called pervert glasses constantly.
- nonentity@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 months
I’d like to know how well they handle being exposed to IR and/or UV LED flares.
Once that experiment has been performed, try a targeted laser turret.
Human eyes are also sensitive to high intensity IR and UV light so you will also blind a human wearing them. Depending on the wavelength, permanently.
- Godric@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
I’m already in favor of using high-powered lasers, you don’t have to keep convincing me
- nonentity@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 months
I meant to include ‘strobe’ in the definition. A low duty cycle would cut down on the biological impact, and rapid, random cycling would help blind the sensors as they try to compensate.
- DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
As usual we advertise the Meta Glasses detecting app:
Glasses Nearby
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
- 3 months
iOS version: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses-original/id6761056896
I see some others in the iOS app store that claim to detect nearby “smart” glasses via BLE. I have not tested any of them, so I have no opinion on their usefulness, reliability, privacy, etc:
Nearby Glasses (same name, different app): https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses/id6776279207
Nearby Lens: Glasses Detector: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-lens-glasses-detector/id6760046620
NoGlasshole: Glasses Detector: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/noglasshole-glasses-detector/id6760988897
Nearby Glasses Ray-Ban Scanner (in-app subscription required): https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses-ray-ban-scanner/id6760216782 - NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish3 months
While useful, I would not want my device to be constantly pinging every device around it with wifi, bluetooth, or whatever other radio signal, on the off chance it might catch someone wearing the most groucho marx looking spyglasses on the planet when my own eyes can do that for me.
If not for the sake of my battery life, then for the same reason why I dont leave my bluetooth or wifi on- less avenues for people nearby to gain easy remote access to my device.
- DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
Yeah, I don’t think that’s how you’d use it.
You’d see some weirdo in wayfarers and load up the app to check. Simple.
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish3 months
I don’t even trust the “only give permission to use [camera/mic/bluetooth/location] while the app is active” setting.
I would not enter a public space with my phone lit up like a EM Christmas tree, sonar pinging every receiver in sight.
Let alone giving some rando app the access to every piece of NFC/radio comms on the off chance it can positively identify someone’s spy glasses, because that means if they are, ive just given their spy glasses my phone’s identifiers, and I’m spending more time near them and more time to possibly end up on some shady company’s panopticon server.
It’s like the people suggesting shining a laser into a flock camera, it might destroy a bit of the sensor, but they’ve also put a highly visible beam of light directly from themselves to it.
- DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
I don’t think the app does that, it’s scanning for pings, not sending out pings. Listening for signals from Meta glasses… it’s not listening to connect with anything, it’s just passively listening. Also it only uses blue tooth… I don’t know what you’re going on about with radio and internet signals.
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish3 months
So you have to leave bluetooth on, which means your device is broadcasting an active bluetooth signal.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/14/opinion/bluetooth-wireless-tracking-privacy.html
If any random shop can use any phone’s active bluetooth to track and profile every user that’s i side or nearby, I don’t want to have bluetooth active when in public. Genuinely not worth it just to fi d some glasshole pervert when my own eyes can do the job without giving away any more of my data. That’s what I’m on about.
- DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
So you have to leave Bluetooth on
No, you can spot a weirdo turn blue tooth on and confirm it, then turn it off.
Look, I don’t think this app is for someone like you.
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish3 months
Oh I know it isn’t, because I trust google as far as I can throw a datacenter.
But I’m still struggling to see the use of an app that makes you stop and go “let me ask my app to turn on my remote connection feature and search to see if this person is wearing the pervert glasses.” instead of using my eyes and going “That guy looks like he’s wearing pervert glasses, I’m leaving the area.”
I like how these only became a problem because Meta made them which meant a bunch of morons bought it.
Hidden and pinhole cameras have been a commercially available thing for decades, even on glasses.
Hell they even made one as a kids toy you could buy.
- Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish3 months
everyone remember google glasses: spying, watching porn was all anyone could think someone is wearing it.
- shaman1093@lemmy.mlEnglish3 months
Interesting enough, while a big flop in the retail market (due to bad reception like you mentioned) I believe they ended up being quite successful in the automated logistics space.
- Flaxseed@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
And gynecologists. I remember seeing a news segment when they were discontinued that interviewed one, and she was bummed out.
- raze2012@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
only became a problem because Meta made them
Anyone who remember “glassholes” knows this isn’t new. Wearing a camera on your literal eyes is still a step too far in this otherwise compromised world.
But yes, I think the big issue here, as others pointed out, has to do with the nature of the company producing them. That’d be especially important for a place like DEFCON, which is all about securing your data.
- Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
It’s not the cameras that are the problem, however, it’s the companies behind them that I take issue with. It’s one thing to be spied on by a camera, it’s another thing when data collected from that camera feed is then sold to anyone who is buying. That’s what I have a problem with. The cameras themselves aren’t the issue.
- Flatfire@lemmy.caEnglish3 months
Well, morons bought it and the device is directly connected to a data harvesting company. I think that has more to do with it. One lone weirdo with a hidden camera and a home server isn’t the same kind of boogeyman
San Diego ComiCon banned them, and Dragoncon is going to ban them.
conference organizers said they have imposed a ban on “Meta-style glasses with recording capabilities.”
Dammit. I was hoping they explicitly called them “pervert glasses” like the headline suggested.
- Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish3 months
especially when its being promoted by a pervert robot, known as ZUckerborg.
- 3 months
A Borg assimilation would be a personality upgrade for that creature.
- minorkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 months
So have shirt that says, “If you can read this, you may be recorded for your safety and for quality assurance purposes.” That’s what corporations do, right? Should solve the concerns?
Nah. See the specific phrasing allows for you to record them and them to record you in two party consent states
- partofthevoice@lemmy.zipEnglish3 months
That would make an awesome shirt, actually. Reminds me of the protest shirts on policy affecting RSA encryption, “this shirt is a WMD” or something to that effect…
Let’s be real if we remove pedophilia from device almost everything requires a recording If you riding a bike or car need evidence If you got a false case or you said anything else while other person said other thing Or if some women accuse you of rape etc…
For all of these meta glasses is what we need without meta getting the video
- hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish3 months
Even without meta, or any other shitcorp, receiving that data, I’d hate to live in a world where every single interaction with any person, or even me just walking by would be on camera.
- kinship@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish3 months
I think the tech can be very useful, especially if we talk about AR Glasses. The thing is… if tech companies restringe the capabilities or people use it unlawfully it sucks. I wish I could record stuff hands free. What happened on the day I talked to Ms X about Y? Then it starts playing? It’s like a human external HDD. We just need something like a bright led that indicates recording or something. We should try to fix the idea not destroy it
I used new line for other sentences but seems piefed put everything in 1 line
- 3 months
Try putting two spaces are the end of the line, or leave a blank line between each line.
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- ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.worldEnglish3 months
All hidden cameras should be illegal, I don’t care about your “hands free convenience”
This is like anti pervert laws 101
- 3 months
Yep. If you want to record everything going on from your POV, strap a GoPro to your head and see if people’s moods change about it. If they clearly don’t want that, they don’t want the “convenient” hidden cameras either. Simple as that.
They don’t want people knowing they are being recorded.
A gopro or a phone held up is basically an indicator of recording happening, which people can choose to avoid if they want to.
But pervert glasses don’t hold up that signal, and the pathetic attempt to make a signal (the LED) is easily covered or otherwise bypassed so you can creep on people without them ever knowing.
